Although of course if you don't listen to DVD Audio discs it hardly matters. Does it require anything special? It had a special drive though. Whether or not it's the PSU, any sound circuit worth using has local filtering to isolate itself from these issues. I have the same problem with a HP laptop running Windows 7 connected to a display and a Linux desktop box connected to a different display.
Both are connected to the integrated sound. Quote: Does it require anything special? Yes, it required a 'protected path' so the audio couldn't be ripped. I have an Audigy 2 Value under Windows 7 64bit. Using the default drivers that came with W7. I've had absolutely no problems whatsoever.
Its horrible. Music sounds flat, games sound just awful. I tried playing Day of Defeat Source and it sounded amazingly bad. IIRC there were just eq profiles to choose from theater, gaming etc and they all sounded equally bad.
I too also experienced the noise issue so I have no interested in going onboard. Perhaps onboard sound quality has greatly improved to what I have now, and maybe throwing in a decent receiver might help but Im getting as much mileage out of this Audigy as I can. Oddness: My new Mac Pro emits hum from my speakers. My Mac Mini does not, quite the price difference.
Perhaps I should look into a better sound card for the Mac Pro. Hum is not usually noise from the PSU, not "noise" in the sense of poor filtering, anyway. The culprit might be poor handling of "ground. Mindphaser wrote: I have an Audigy 2 Value under Windows 7 64bit.
Sounds like equalizing. AFAIK, most modern onboard soundchips are actually very decent. The Audigy 2 as I recall really wasn't that special in the sound-department, and with the revamped sound-architecture in Windows 7, much of the reason for using Creatives products with the accompanying POS drivers went out the window.
For digital, I'm fairly certain the difference should be inaudible, for analog I'm not sure - some of the more experienced audio guys will have to weigh in. Quote: I'd be curious if I'd get a major, noticable improvement in analog output to a dedicated amplifier. Curious enough to buy a cable? Well I did a search and it seems the latest Realtek drivers offer better EQ options. The lack of proper EQ for me was the biggest reason I couldnt use onboard.
That and the noise issue. But it still sounded flat no matter what. Im using the WDM drivers for the card and like I stated its been excellent stability wise. No problems at all. The next rig I build I will retire the card and I'll move onto a receiver setup. FYI: you've got something else fucking up the signal if it's really that terrible.
It's not the chipset and it's not the motherboard implementation. I do the same thing. It's definitely enough of a perk that I'm going to keep the card around, but unless a replacement would be dirt cheap, I don't think I'll replace it when it eventually dies or goes obsolete. I dont like the sound of it. Simple as that. You probably haven't heard what the Audigy2 sounds like in W7, but I know how the Realtek sounds like in comparison and I did not like it, so chalk it up to user preference.
Perhaps the EQ in the latest drivers improve things greatly, but I'm totally satisfied with the sound of my Audigy2 for the time being. And the noise is not something of mine "fucking up" as its obviously occurring with some other folks. I can barely hear it through my speakers, but its definitely noticeable with headphones.
Quote: Nope. Anecdotally, my onboard sound also sounds like ass. It's flat, tinny, zero bass, frequent hiss. The only fix was to install my old X-Fi. You said that. I'm telling you the problem doesn't lie where you think it does. Don't take it personally. Quote: Perhaps the EQ in the latest drivers improve things greatly, but I'm totally satisfied with the sound of my Audigy2 for the time being. For the record, this could very well be the case.
If your Audigy drivers are fcking with the signal, that could make it sound significantly different and maybe that's to your liking. Quote: Anecdotally, my onboard sound also sounds like ass. All onboard is not created alike. I don't know what your board is. His board I know very well, though. I still have to wonder if on-board sound problems aren't motherboard, or connection-related problems. Here on Ars, my informal assessment is that most computer users most of the time don't seem to mind their on-board audio chip quality level, so those who have problems with their on-board sound quality either have "golden ears" caution: we are getting into audiophile territory here , or have some other problems which relate to hardware issues that are otherwise undetectable, or not able to be fixed without doing some parts replacing, I.
Quote: Here on Ars, my informal assessment is that most computer users most of the time don't seem to mind their on-board audio chip quality level, so those who have problems with their on-board sound quality either have "golden ears" caution: we are getting into audiophile territory here , or have some other problems which relate to hardware issues, but are otherwise undetectable, or not able to be fixed without doing some parts replacing, I.
I know it was with me. I've never been completely happy with my onboard sound of the last three boards I bought. Tried them all but always went back to the card. Having it installed hurts nothing. I'm also one of the few people who actually uses the firewire port on the card too.
Quote: VelvetG said, re an add-on sound card: Having it installed hurts nothing. Perhaps you have been lucky. Others here have talked about driver issues and problems regarding older sound cards when upgrading to Win 7.
I always prefer to run fewer add-on cards on my system because it makes troubleshooting easier. I guess.
I've never had a sound card give me trouble and I haven't really had to troubleshoot many PC problems on my own rig in years other than a crappy Asus Mobo that never wanted to actually power up. If someone reports a problem with onboard thats not just hiss, its probably just placebo or else they have inadvertently failed to compare things correctly e.
EQ in one device and not the other. StanGable wrote: Quote: Nope. Not taking it personally, just stating that I didn't like the sound. I did try to match my previous EQ settings with the Audigy but it didnt sound right to me. Again with the newer drivers that have better EQ controls maybe I could match it more precisely but for the time being Im happy with the Audigy2.
I should also note the Audigy WDM drivers have nothing to do with it. No awful creative driver suite installed etc. The noise was present. I also had to use onboard because I had a Hackintosh going , and the Audigy didn't work right.
And also under Linux with headphones? All you've shown is that either OS X stinks or your speakers do. While I agree that the stuff about flatness is silly, having hiss on some systems is perfectly reasonable, particularly if he tried headphones. Dont know why it would be silly.
This is all subjective anyway, and I prefer the Audigy2 to onboard, others wont. Its a matter of preference. What I do find silly is some ppl seemingly not being able to accept that others would choose a soundcard vs onboard if it works for them.
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